#454237 Lot 225 in 6/21/09
HAMPDEN BALL LIST
HAMPDEN BALL LIST - HAMPDEN LIST
SERIAL SIZE JEWELS MVMT MARKED DIAL MARKED
346262 18 15 HAMPDEN W C B C O
372594 18 15 HAMPDEN W C B C O
410538 18 15 B S H G Fancier style
444731 18 15 B S H G FANCIER STYLE
454237 18 15 BSSG Fancier style DS
480814 18 15 B S S G
480872 18 15 B S S G FANCIER RED 5 MIN MRKR
481080 18 15 B S S G FANCIER DIAL RED 5 MIN
481239 18 17 B S S G
481259 18 17 B S S G
481303 18 15 B S S G fancier style
626754 18 17 B S S G
657953 18 17 B S S G
657973 18 17 B S S G
721071 18H 15 B S C O
759542 18 B S S G
759593 18 17 B S S G
759597 18 17 B S S G
759610 18 17 B S S G
759631 18 17 B S SG
759637 18 17 B S S G
759657 18 17 B S S G
759720 18 17 B S S G
759740 18 17 B S S G
759760 18 17 B S S G
760503 18 17 B S S G
761624 18 17 B S ??
761660 18 17 B S C O
761682 18 17 B S S G
761715 18 17 B S S G
761742 18 17 B S C O W C B HOLLOW ARABIC
761780 18 17 B S S G
761781 18 17 B S H G
761845 18 17 B S C O W C B C O
866973 18 17 B S S G
Bill Kapp's Ball Hampden marked Ball's Standard Cleveland O.
Seller permitted me to use his photo's.
Fred Hansen's Dial is pictured below
Hampden marked Superior Grade
Watch below is taken from Old Watch.com site, he describes the dial as a controversial Moorehouse!
Picture below was forwarded by Fred Hansen of a dial reported on a Hampden signed keywind # 94967. Looks like another Moorehouse?
Dial below is another Moorehouse style dial found on Bill Kapp's Ball Hampden
Hi Grade #410538, The Earliest known Ball Hampden reported to date.
Below is the back of the dial marked in pen is 8/28 and 9'C
Movement of 410538. This is one of 3 known marked Hi grade and the Earliest known reported serial number for a Ball Hampden marked movement.
Sold on ebay 11/29/08 for $2152 + 30 shipping
Picture under the Barrel bridge of a BSSG, courtesy of Eric Engh, no serial number, this is the 4 th example I have seen like this, apparantly Hampden filled early Ball private labels from existing stock and fitted them with new barrel bridges. The Barreit has the number scratched/etched on the barrel cover but not stamped. Barreit pix above and Garwood pix below courtesy of David Abbe. George Jones from the Jones and Horan auction team reports that # 454237 has no numbers under the barrel bridge! This is now the 5th such report! None are reported yet with serial numbers.
The Garwood has the number stamped as one would expect! The uneven spacing is typical. Numerals were individualy stamped and alignment was uneven. Guess it didn't matter as it wasn't meant to be viewed! I haven't seen any Ball's with the stamped bridge yet and other private labels are not consistent! Maybe it depended upon quantity or price. I believe that If a run was dedicated to a private label, it got the serial number, if existing stock was used then the barrel was replaced.
Above ad ran in the Brotherhood journals from 7/90 well into 1891. I don't have copies of late 91 or any 92 journals so I am not sure when they stopped.
Ball Time line: information derived from Ohio Dept of Corporations, Bulletin Articles by Kent Singer & Ed Euberall(338), Winslow, jewelers Circular and posts by Jeff hess such as NAWCC Disc Ball Co's
75-79 employed by Deuber
79 Whitcomb/Ball
10/79 Webb C Ball
85 Bankrupt
90-91 (92?) Selling Ball's Standard Hampden watches
91 In Oct Ball forms stock co with 100000 capital and 5 investors.
92-93 Selling Brotherhood and Ball's Standard Howard watches
93-? Hamilton mfg Ball Standard and ORRS/Brotherhood watches
94-96 Stockholder and VP of Hamilton
Hampden time line
1891 Rood and Cain leave Hampden for Hamilton start up, Deuber cash strapped after buying them out had to suspend operations for a few weeks, raise additional capital and within 6-8 months had sole ownership.
1893 could be a pivotal year as there was a general economic collapse that history calls the" panic of 93".
Bulletin 234 p17 by Campbell/Fuller discuss Deubers dissatisfaction with Ball Ads that claim mfg status. They also mention that Ball had previously ceased buying Hampdens and future orders had gone to competitors. The ads cited were in 1901 but Ball had claimed mfg status all thru 1896 in the various brotherhood journals.